DIY parent needs help with starting my 5yr old on violin

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said: Nov 14, 2008
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Hi all,

I did suzuki violin as a kid and have decided to teach my own 5 yr old.

Before anyone jumps on me about this—we are currently living in french speaking Europe, no suzuki teachers, and everyone around here does the solfege method which involves a lot of theory. So I have decided to get her started myself, and then we’ll look for a proper teacher in 6-12 months if she’s enjoying it.

We’ve only had a couple of short lesson so far and, surprise, explaining posture and hand position is really hard! We have the pictures of the cute girl in the front of the book (nice to see she still looks the same after 35 years), but what I really need are some games or exercises we can do to help her with holding the violin and the bow properly, and moving her wrist. Can anyone point me towards any online resources, or even older posts on this forum? I have tried searching without much luck so far.

TIA,

Carol

Connie Sunday said: Nov 14, 2008
Connie SundayViolin, Piano, Viola
667 posts

DIY ?

Free Handouts for Music Teachers & Students:
http://beststudentviolins.com/library.html#handouts

said: Nov 14, 2008
 3 posts

Do It Yourself

Connie Sunday said: Nov 14, 2008
Connie SundayViolin, Piano, Viola
667 posts

cwapshere2

Do It Yourself

Oh, okay; thank you—I didn’t know what it was.

I don’t know if this will help. On the Violin/Viola FAQ, we have the following:

(2) How to teach yourself the violin.
http://beststudentviolins.com/PedagogyTech.html#2

If you will follow that link, it has lists of materials, and I think there are a lot of good photographs in the Tune a Day series, which are books which used to be used in the public schools when I was growing up and first started on the violin (in the 1950’s). I still use them for “reading” books and find them quite helpful.

HTH

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said: Nov 14, 2008
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I think I’ve found what I need here:

https://worknotes.com/GA/Macon/Baser/MicrosoftWord-pretwinkle.pdf

Thanks,
Carol

Connie Sunday said: Nov 14, 2008
Connie SundayViolin, Piano, Viola
667 posts

Also see:

What are some of the techniques teachers use to approach beginning students?
http://beststudentviolins.com/PedagogyTech.html#21

Free Handouts for Music Teachers & Students:
http://beststudentviolins.com/library.html#handouts

said: Apr 1, 2009
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Ok, I won’t tell you it is nuts, you know that already. Even if you are a great player yourself, teaching a child how to play is a whole ‘nother matter … Check out the video violin lesson series (they are also available on you tube) at http://www.toddehle.com —they are the best thing on the internet. Todd Ehle is a beautifully trained classical violinist, has fantastic technique, and he’s a natural teacher. The videos are not geared to children, though. But they might get you going. Ps. would you go to a DIY brain surgeon? Just for a little perspective, I’m a teacher and I will not accept transfer students—by the time they have been playng with terrible technique for six months or a year, it’s an incredible amount of work and frustration to develop good habits to replace the bad, and often they never really do.

Diane said: Apr 1, 2009
Diane AllenViolin
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myviolinrecital.com—Look under MyTeacher for teacher demos. At this time there is a bow hand demonstration posted plus a bunch of practice spots for Book 1.

Teachers are welcome to post their own demos and we’re looking forward to receiving them.

Student Violin recitals are also posted under MyRecital. They are meant to be a reference for all to enjoy!

Good Luck!

Diane
http://www.myviolinvideos.com
Videos of student violin recitals and violin tutorials.

Jennifer Visick said: Apr 2, 2009
Jennifer VisickForum Moderator
Suzuki Association Member
Viola, Suzuki in the Schools, Violin
998 posts
  1. Read “Nurtured by Love” if you haven’t already. Understand the Suzuki philosophy from an adult perspective as well as from an “I experienced it growing up” perspective. Then check out the other things mentioned on this thread. You might also try these….

Violinmasterclass.com has some good teaching videos.

“Red Parrot Green Parrot” by Edward Huws-Jones has some creative pre-twinkle songs.

[size=150]“The New Pre-Twinkle book” by Katherine Merrill and Jean Brandt has a lot of rhymes and ideas for teaching motions that go with them. This resource probably fits most closely what you asked for.
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“Teaching from the Balance Point” by Ed Kreitman has some excellent groundwork for how to teach (philosophically as well as some practical tips)

“How Muscles Learn: Teaching the Violin with the Body in Mind” by Susan Kempter is an excellent resource for not inadvertently starting your child down the path to practice-related injuries.

Carolyn McCall has a book on teaching Suzuki group classes which nevertheless has some great ideas that can be adapted for individual lessons too.

“In the Suzuki Style” by Elizabeth Mills (and Suzuki Parents) is a collection of practical ideas that parents in her studio used when practicing at home. It is unfortunately out of print but you might be able to find used copies on Amazon.com.

You can also see video clips of Shinichi Suzuki’s teaching at the American Suzuki Institute if you have realplayer—take a look here

Katie said: Aug 16, 2009
 Violin
3 posts

Group lessons for Suzuki Violin/viola by Carolyn McCall has a lot of games and activities for children. Ideally for groups but, you can get some ides from the book. I would suggest that you try to observe as much Suzuki teaching as possible so you can teach your daughter the proper techniques.

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