rudolph steiner and suzuki philosophy

Nobuaki said: Apr 26, 2006
Nobuaki Tanaka
Suzuki Association Member
Violin, Viola
Mount Prospect, IL
115 posts


I am researching Rudolph Steiner and seems there are some similarty between Suzuki and Steiner. Anyone knows about Rudolph Steiner? Seems useful for suzuki teaching.

thank you

Melissa said: Apr 27, 2006
 151 posts

Rudolph Steiner was the founder of Waldorf Education. As you probably already know.

Let us know what you find out with the research that you are doing.

What little I know of Waldorf Education is that it can go hand in hand with the natural approach Dr. Suzuki developed to learning music. The Waldorf approach is to educate the whole child and as naturally and age developmentally as possible.

The only thing I somewhat question is the discipline/structure part of it.

I may be completely missing the mark here, but it has seemed to me with the experience I have had working with Waldorf students is the parents find it hard to feel okay with the structure/focus needed to practice, their children taking instruction, etc…
Where as, for example, Montessori students/parents seemed very structured and focused in this way. Consequently, easier to teach.

I think, and please correct me, anyone, if I am wrong, that the Suzuki method is quite a bit more “demanding” on the child at a pretty young age or at least the method comes across like this to a Waldorf parent which may be something they do not believe in when educating their children.

Diana said: Apr 27, 2006
Diana UmilePiano
Coatesville, PA
36 posts

I’ve been told by Waldorf parents that they should not do Suzuki because Waldorf does not advocate listening to recorded music, only music played live. Just as it is against TV, etc., at least for young ages.

A Montessori teacher told me that although there are similarities with Suzuki, such as creating the environment for learning, in Montessori they let the child choose the activities, and they would not advocate enforcing (for lack of a better word) daily practice unless the child initiates it.

Of course, there are many variations on these philosophies among individual schools, teachers, and parents.

said: Jul 23, 2006
 1 posts

I am a cello and chamber music teacher, and quite knowledgeable of Suzuki and Waldorf education. My four children attend a Waldorf school, my wife started a strings program at the school.

My sister and I studied with Dr. Suzuki in Japan, and I teach for the most part the Suzuki method with my beginning students.

I’d be happy to share with you the similarities, and differences, of both philosophies, and approaches to education.


Debbie said: Jul 24, 2006
Debbie Mi138 posts

I’m not the original poster, but I would love to read your comparison of the 3 philosophies!!!

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