lifting chin from chinrest

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Irene said: Feb 15, 2011
Irene YeongViolin
160 posts

hi,

my 30 months old daughter keep lifting her chin from the chinrest when she does bowing and just look elsewhere.
please help, how to make her stay focus?

Laura said: Feb 17, 2011
 
Suzuki Association Member
Piano
358 posts

Consider that these are actually three completely separate tasks:

  1. being able to keep the chin on the chin rest at all (while doing or playing anything, no matter how)
  2. being able to play what is supposed to be played (regardless of whether or not the chin is on the rest)
  3. being able to play WHILE keeping the chin on the chin rest

It is important to only give one task to focus on at the same time. The younger the child and/or the earlier the beginner, the more important that this task be extremely simple, almost ridiculously simple—because it can still be a big job for them. Give a very clear instruction, just one, and make sure she can follow it.

You can break down each task into even smaller ones.

For example, for Task 1, you could ask her to keep her chin on the chin rest:
a. while holding the violin (without bow) in playing position
i. with violin hand off violin (e.g. on the right shoulder)
ii. with violin hand on violin
[This step is to confirm or re-learn the ability to hold the violin in place properly, between jaw and shoulder]
b. while counting to a certain number (or waiting while you count) in silence
c. while you do the bowing
d. while she does the bowing (no matter how poorly, since the goal is to keep the chin on the chin rest)

For a not-even-3-year-old, this many steps can take a up a lot of practice time. But it’s important to master each step, no matter how small, before moving on to something more complicated.

For the record, I’m not a violin teacher, but a piano teacher and violin parent. I believe that the Suzuki approach is the same regardless of instrument—so I just made up some steps I might use if it were my own child with the same problem at home. However, I humbly stand aside to allow any actual violin teachers out there to suggest more violin-appropriate steps!

Irene said: Feb 22, 2011
Irene YeongViolin
160 posts

thank you purple tulips.
my daughter has a little improvement about the chin. i just need to keep reminding her everytime she lift her chin from the chinrest.
now another issue, she is very upset when she bows and the bow goes all over the place, she refused to try. i just have to encouraged her , no matter how awful she play, any effort is better than nothing.

i need her to be willing to do the bowing practice,, then correct her the place for bowing, then the string.. but first, she has to overcome the fear.. of bowing..

Jennifer Visick said: Feb 22, 2011
Jennifer VisickForum Moderator
Suzuki Association Member
Viola, Suzuki in the Schools, Violin
998 posts

Do you practice holding the instrument without the left hand?

Have you (as a parent) practiced guiding someone else’s bow arm until you are able to do it confidently and securely for her?

Irene said: Feb 24, 2011
Irene YeongViolin
160 posts

She can hold the instrument without left hand and count to 20.

I’ve not guided anyone else’ bow arm but I did guide her for some time, but when I let go and let her do on her own, that’s the issue. She was like ‘i can’t do it, i just can’t ‘.
I praise her for trying, even though the bow is all over the place or anything, any effort is better than nothing.

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