Violin Book 3 questions

Kiyoko said: Jan 20, 2019
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What year is the most recent revision of Book 3 for the violin?
How different is Book 3 from the original?
Are there details on the revised editions anywhere?

Thank you!

Marian Goss said: Jan 21, 2019
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While I do not remember the exact year, I believe the revised book 3 has been out for 10 or so years. You would notice the cover of the book is very different from what the previous covers. The new covers are now multicolored and have larger wheels. The books themselves are also bigger with much larger print and many handy exercises throughout. But there is a lot more different about books 3 than just the larger print. Several bowings and even a few notes were changed in the new revision. Notably, the Gavotte in D major which now starts on an up bow, and the Bach Bourree, which has some accidentals changed in the minor part. You will also see some changes in the Bach Minuet in terms of repeats and da capos. There is also ornamentation added to minuet 3, though these ornaments are not recorded on the CD, have no idea why. They recorded a book 5 Gavotte 2 times, once with the ornamentation and once without. That would have been a nice idea if the revisers had wanted the kids to learn ornaments in book 3. Over all I like the revisions. Far less fingerings for students to read and much more information for the parent.

Jennifer Visick said: Jan 23, 2019
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Below is a list of changes that were made from the original book 3 to the revised book 3.

This list is an excerpt from a pdf that the SAA published some time ago, but I can’t find a link to the pdf at the moment. Here’s a link to my copy, which I made changes to wherever I found it to be in error.

Martini Gavotte:
- beginning measure 72, second beat, and continuing through measure 80, first half note-slurs now connecting all notes per beat, no separate bows

Bach Minuet:
- Minuet I and Minuet II designation Minuet I, measures 1—16—now repeated
- Minuet II, measures 1—16—now repeated
- Minuet II, measure 15, second and third beats—now connected portato up-bows
- Minuet II, measures 17—32—now repeated
- Minuet II, measure 32—new D.C. Minuet I al Fine

Humoresque:
- recommendations for third position throughout
- measure 40—only third position fingering
- measure 56—suggestion for harmonic

Becker Gavotte:
- measures 26 & 42, second beat—both eighth notes now up-bow
- measure 50—now D.S. al Fine

Gavottes in D Major:
- Gavotte I and Gavotte II designation
- Gavotte I now begins up bow
- Gavotte I, measures 9 & 25, second beat—now two up-bow quarter notes
- Gavotte I, measure 20, second beat—note is now C# (with 3rd finger) not A
- Gavotte II, measures 7 & 9—all notes separate bow
- Gavotte II, measure 14, first beat—all eight notes slurred
- Gavotte II, measures 12, second beat & measure 13—last eighth note in slur now dotted
- Gavotte II, measure 14, second beat & measure 15—all notes separate bow
- Gavotte II, measure 15—start up-bow
- Gavotte II, measures 19 & 20—last quarter note tied to first quarter note (Ds), added trill on tied D, and up-bow on second quarter note C#
- Gavotte II, measure 20 second beat & measure 21 first beat—last eighth note in slur now dotted
- Gavotte II, measure 23—all notes separate bow
- Gavotte II, measure 27, second beat—all eighth notes slurred
- Gavotte II, measure 28—first beat quarter notes separate & second beat eighth notes up-bow
- Gavotte II, measure 29—starts down-bow, all notes separate bow
- Gavotte II, measure 30—first beat starts down-bow & second beat up-bow
- Gavotte II, measure 31—start up-bow

Bach Bourree:
- Bourree I and Bourree designation
- Bourree I, measures 1, 3, 9, 17 & Bourree II, measures 9, 13—first beat eighth notes, up-bow slur & second beat quarter notes, separate bow
- Bourree I, measure 22—last eighth note is now C not D
- Bourree I, measure 23, second half both beats—separate bow
- Bourree II, measures 2, 4, 20—now E naturals not E flats
- Bourree II, measures 7 & 23, second beat—all eighth notes slurred
- Bourree II, measures 8 & 24—now down-bow
- Bourree II, measure 8—no C on first beat, now only B flat
- Bourree II, measure 12, first beat—now suggested grace note D to C#, not written eighth notes

Italics indicate a correction to this list as it was originally posted on the SAA website

Jennifer Visick said: Jan 23, 2019
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And also, here is a link to Alan Lieb’s blog on the Revised International editions, from 2008:

https://suzukiassociation.org/news/isa-violin-committee-report-on-revised-internationa/

Jennifer Visick said: Jan 23, 2019
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And, also, there have been reprints of some of the revised books since 2010. Some minor changes were made in the reprints. Check the Alfred publisher’s version number (the “AMPV” number) on books printed after 2010…

http://internationalsuzuki.org/docs/April2018newsfromAlfred-All.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0bCJsoFXeNg_PAzj9KJxH34xvTXjbz56Z3dh1c0rMm17mlk6aQBlDMDXc

and

https://images.alfred.com/images/LandingPages/Suzuki/Suzuki-AMPV-numbers_2018.pdf

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