Adult beginners

Eleanor Bennett said: Jun 5, 2013
 
Suzuki Association Member
Violin, Viola
Villa Rica, GA
62 posts

Does anyone recommend a good way to start a 20 year old beginner? Should I use the Suzuki Book I for Cello or is there a better book for starting an adult?
Eleanor Bennett

Eleanor Bennett

Barb said: Jun 5, 2013
Barb Ennis
Suzuki Association Member
Cello
678 posts

Hi Eleanor,

When I first started teaching I asked the adult beginners on the ICS forums what their teachers used to get them started—I was wondering if they would feel the Suzuki book too Juvenile. There was a pretty strong majority—maybe even all who replied—who used Suzuki repertoire, and were happy with it. Many also used Schroeder’s Foundation Studies, Mooney’s Position Pieces and Double Stops for Cello. Not right from the very beginning, maybe. :-) I have used those, and also, since I bought Irene Sharp’s video, Pathways for Young Cellists included on the CD-Rom. (There are two books included on the CD, but the other requires piano which I don’t play.) I also use Cello Time Joggers and then Cello Time Runners—most of my adults have enjoyed them for the wider variety of musical styles, even though there are cartoons on the cover etc. :-) These are optional for my older students.

Since most of the adults play the same repertoire as the kids we all play some things together in recitals as well—everyone enjoys. I did have a teen who griped a bit about the book 1 tunes. I explained what a strong foundation these provided, and encouraged her to also find some popular music she would also enjoy. She was one who didn’t opt to use the Cello Time music. Otherwise, none have complained about using Suzuki. Most adults move through book 1 fairly quickly.

Barb
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Carrie said: Jun 6, 2013
 
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58 posts

I use the Suzuki books and my adult students have been happy with it. In fact, all of the adult students I’ve taught, I have started at the beginning , even those who play already, because, while they have learned to read music, they haven’t learned to listen. They’ve all loved filling in their music education in this way. When they get towards the end of book one, some are not able to learn by ear and need to read the music. Others are determined to learn all of book one without reading it. I go with what they need and desire.

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Laura said: Jun 6, 2013
Laura Mozena
Suzuki Association Member
Violin
Palm City, FL
105 posts

Hello Eleanor,
I am a violin teacher, but I have several adult beginners and these cello method books use the same approaches and techniques as the violin books that I recommend for my adult students.

Strictly Strings
String Builder
String Explorer

This is a cello method that my colleagues use:
Schroder’s Violin Cello Method

And I use these as a supplement to Suzuki (even with adults).

I hope this helps.

Laura
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Eleanor Bennett said: Jun 6, 2013
 
Suzuki Association Member
Violin, Viola
Villa Rica, GA
62 posts

Thanks Carrie. Your comments were very helpful

Eleanor Bennett

Eleanor Bennett

Jennifer Visick said: Jun 8, 2013
Jennifer VisickForum Moderator
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Viola, Suzuki in the Schools, Violin
998 posts

I often offer older (teenage and adult) students a choice—I’ll pull out several different method books, and I play the first melody or two that the student will get to play out of each method book. Then I ask them to choose which tunes they like best, and whatever book that tune is in, that’s the main book I use to get the student through the basics.

Some choose Suzuki, some don’t.

Eleanor Bennett said: Jun 8, 2013
 
Suzuki Association Member
Violin, Viola
Villa Rica, GA
62 posts

That is what I did. I played some tunes from a book I used in the classroom that has a great CD accompaniment; then I played the Suzuki Book I CD skipping around from the beginning to the end. To my surprise she chose Suzuki. Her goal is to be in a rock band!

Eleanor Bennett

Barb said: Jun 8, 2013
Barb Ennis
Suzuki Association Member
Cello
678 posts

I wonder if any of the Apocolyptica members were Suzuki students? I know they have classical backgrounds and started as children.

My biggest drop out rate has been students in this age range. Not because of the music, but because it turns out to be more difficult and take more time than they are able to give it. I try to explain the time commitment at the start, but in at least one case the college workload is what was heavier than the student imagined, and these young adults usually have a lot going on with jobs and social life as well.

Hope all goes well with your student!

Barb
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Kiyoko said: Jun 11, 2013
 84 posts

Ear training like what Suzuki helps establish, is important for playing in any band. Many artists perform without music and sometimes a solo will go a bit long or someone will decide to play something a bit differently. Ear training is a great basis for recognition, adaptation, and improvisation to handle that. It is much easier to learn pieces or parts for which there is no music or tablature available or correct the bits that are incorrectly transcribed.

This is coming from the perspective of an adult who started Suzuki at 3 and eventually played improv, blues, rock, and metal including Metallica (before Apocalyptica debuted) on my violin.

Much luck with your student!

Eleanor Bennett said: Jun 12, 2013
 
Suzuki Association Member
Violin, Viola
Villa Rica, GA
62 posts

Thank you for the response. It was very interesting
Eleanor Bennett

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